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Can someone give me a quick recap of Obama’s “brilliant” healthcare reform plan?? how to pay for it?

I watched his entire speech the other night and I learned one thing: Obama is passing a bill whether you want it or not. He’s not going to get too specific (because he has no specifics) and he’s not going to waste time telling you how he’s going to pay for it (cuz he can’t fully pay for it). And he OBVIOUSLY isn’t concerned about the half a dozen loopholes that currently exist that would allow illegal immigrants to use the program (even though “technically” they aren’t supposed too).

But KNOW THIS, the president isn’t going to tolerate all those people playing political games……lol………who are simply trying to block progress…….LOL…….because the president hasn’t been selling his soul to BIG PHARMA for nothing!!!

So what is his plan again?? No cheaper drugs, no public option, a mandate to buy insurance……..did I miss anything??

(Oh yeah, and he’s going to sneak it by with 51 partisan votes…….HOW BIPARTISAN OF YOU SIR!!!!)

Well at least this insurance/pharmaceutical industry bailout won’t cost as much as the bank bailouts…….

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/58233-obama-sets-stage-for-using-budget-maneuver-to-pass-health-reform

“Part of the frustration I have is, is that on the Republican side there are wonderful people who really operated on the basis of pragmatism and common sense and getting things done,” Obama said. “Those voices have been — been, I think, shouted down on that side.”

Obama publicly accepted Wilson’s apology while at the same time decrying “name-calling” he says the American people won’t tolerate.

The president went so far as to warn Republicans that he “will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it’s better politics to kill this plan than improve it.”

Another aspect of the Democrats’ rationale for using reconciliation will likely be the $787 billion stimulus bill, which they note included tax cuts but was only supported by three Republicans in Congress.

Republicans, predictably wary of Obama’s maneuvering, said if Obama is setting up a defense of reconciliation, it will do little to blunt the blowback from both Congress and the American people.

“If Democrats use controversial insider tactics to force a proposal that the majority of Americans disagree with, not only would they guarantee bipartisan opposition, but they would also spark a new level of outrage among a huge majority of people in this country,” said a Senate Republican leadership aide.
supply…….yes the classic Obama supporter logic: Bush was bad for wasting trillions in Iraq, so we must spend a trillion more to “reform” healthcare. Can you see the connection….lol
“wah lah”……..If you believe this bill will be deficit neutral (of all the bullsh*t that has been said about it) you truly don’t understand how inefficient the U.S. govt. truly is.
scott b……”Do you have any ideas how we can do THAT?”

Are you dumb? You sit there and claim we haven’t even paid for the wars we’re currently fighting YET you think we have enough to spend $900 on healthcare “reform”….can you explain that. I agree WE CAN”T pay for those wars. WHY?? WE ARE PRINTING MONEY (monetizing debt)………spending more is not solving the problem.
*$900 Billion
dante………He gave bullsh*t lines that were debunked within two hours of him completing the speech.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g5ewCvsGcSPBeHJurb6qYZLVU8OgD9AKAF902

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Why will Obama’s health care plan NOT be “reform”?

See a few sources.

First a youtube video of Dennis Kucinich:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if5fgI-w-CY&feature=player_embedded#t=100

“This system is a bailout for the insurance companies and the pharmaceutical companies.” — Congressman Dennis Kucinich.

Then, an article: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/sep2009/obam-s10.shtml

Obama sought to repackage his proposed overhaul of health care to better conceal from the public its reactionary content, but the bulk of his speech focused on the need to slash health care costs, both those borne by private companies and government outlays for Medicare and Medicaid, the government programs for the elderly and the poor.

“The problem of rising costs,” he said, places “American businesses that compete internationally, like our auto makers” at “a huge disadvantage.” The reference to US auto companies was significant, since Obama forced General Motors and Chrysler into bankruptcy in large part to push through a drastic lowering of health benefits for auto workers. With this remark, Obama sent a signal that, despite his “reform” rhetoric, the assault on auto workers’ health benefits was the model for the kind of cuts his health care proposals would effect more broadly.

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Why is Obama not willing to increase the deficit one penny for health insurance?

Is health insurance less important than the bailout of banks, auto makers, etc, which has already increased our deficit many billions?

Is the forced subsidy of health insurance by those who don’t want health insurance a new indirect tax to pay for Obama’s plan?

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Why is there a $10 billion bailout for unions in 0bamacare?

Section 164 of the Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 provides that the government pay 80 cents on the dollar to corporate and union insurance plans for claims between $15,000 and $90,000 for retirees age 55 to 64. Union health insurance funds only have about 30 cents available to cover each dollar of anticipated claims, according to the Lewin Group and other research outfits.
If this provision were to be passed as part of the overhaul package favored by the Obama Administration, the $10 billion figure would probably expand overtime as union plans continue to come under financial pressure, Packer said.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obamacare-bails-out-union-pension-plans-too–54816897.html
good guy – Clearly you can’t argue the point… Save us the Alinsky Rule 5 Ridicule… READ THE BILL… SECTION 164

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